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Re: Израел
« Отговор #780 -: Април 08, 2026, 22:18:26 »
Ето нещо от днес сутринта. Нямах време , та затова сега.


https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bjjdwemh11g

Тръмп купи време и Израел плаща цена
Президентът Тръмп може да му отдаде две непосредствени постижения в резултат на примирието с Иран, докато Израел е изправен пред рискове за сигурността и незавършени решения, наред с други неща, спрямо Хизбула – ако изобщо всичко спре в Ливан

Тръмп  се опита да се изсули през паузата, но Натаняху , от страх ,че Тръмп няма да се върне на терена, дръпна канапчето. :i_slamhead:

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Re: Израел
« Отговор #781 -: Април 10, 2026, 00:10:20 »
Министр обороны Пакистана назвал Израиль злом и проклятьем для человечества.
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Re: Израел
« Отговор #782 -: Днес в 12:00:50 »
Ex-IDF, Ex-Israeli: Gilad Atzmon on What's Really Driving Israel's Genocidal Logic   :eyes:

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За по-мързеливите, за да има над какво да люпят семки в днешния особено особен празник, транскрипта на част от клипа:

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So, the meaning  is  and I didn't need even all this introduction, that they are sustained by negation. The negation unites them. And one of the most devastating thing that I understood about the Jewish world and the Jewish universe, the Jewish metaphysics, the Jewish being in the world, is that  they are designed culturally to bring disasters on themselves.So, it's not a coincidence that they were expelled from 100 or107andpeople argue what is the number, but you know,we we look in the in the recent history and we see that they are getting into a lot of trouble, you know, in Europe in in Europe in in Eastern Europe, you know, the pogroms and and now in America. But they explain that as being anti-Semitic, that that was European anti-Semitism, persecution of Jews.Of course. Of course. But but I and this this got me into a lot of trouble.I don't believe that people hate other people for what they are,but for what for what for for what they do. Okay.

>> Yeah?

Nobody Nobody I believe nobody I'm serious about it, including Hitler, hates Jews for being Jews.He You know, I read Hitler among one of my crimes. I read that I read it. You know, how can how can you understand the Well, the early Zionist movement The early Zionist movement is said to have worked with Hitler. He agreed that Jews needed a separate place and ideally he wanted to get rid of them from Germany. So, the Zionists would have been quite happy to work with him to say, "Let's Let's shift German Jews to a new place,i.e. Palestine." Perhaps. Of course,there there were Yeah.There there definitely There were definitely segment within the Zionist movement that were happy to work with Hitler. We also know about the agreement. We we You know, and then Balfour Balfour, it's said that Balfour went for this option as well because he also wanted to get rid of Jews. So, there was this kind of European colonialist thing of like,let's get rid of the Jews somewhere else. Get rid of the problem.And Churchill as well. So,so there is a kind of a So,anti-Semitism is a should be, I believe,looked upon as a symbiotic event.Is something that also served the Jews.And unite them and sustain their cultural But now I want to talk about a little bit about Purim, because it's it's a story of, you know, Esther and I you'll probably give me more details on it, but the attack on Iran this time, this round, began symbolically around Purim.And of course, the Iranians I think that it was symbolic. I don't think that it was symbolically. I think that I think that America,being the foolish place it is, was pulled into carrying this criminal war in this date that was supposed to be a catalytic Jewish moment.Now,I was touring. I was somewhere in Europe.And I think that I got the first beeper,you know, I didn't sleep since then and kind of reporting all the time about what is happening. Sure. At maybe 7:00 6:00 in the morning. It was in the morning the first attack.And within15 minutes, I went to have coffee somewhere and I wrote my piece about Purim. So, they did it two days before Purim. And I thought,wow, this is very courageous of me to do to write this thing and then then two hours later, I see the Jewish president in the Jewish writer in the New in the New York Times.This is Purim.You know, we made it for Purim. Now, what is Purim?Purim is the most joyous Jewish holiday. And it's by the way some holiday that is celebrated by all Jews pretty much, not just the religious, yeah.Definitely a big celebration in in in Israel.But it's a story of so-called a guy anti-Semitic guy called Haman who didn't like the Jews and he was an adviser to the Persian king.In the book of Esther, it is called Ahasuerus, Xerxes basically.And the Jews are very worried about it.And they manage to get Queen Esther, who is a Jewish young woman to become Ahasuerus, the king's new wife. And she persuades him. It's a basically Epstein story. She persuades him to go against Haman and eventually Haman and I think70,000 of his tribe are being massacred. It's basically a genocide.And this is the most joyous festival. The war against Iran started one one and a half days of that event and it's again it's a war against Persia.It's old Persia in Purim, modern Persia,Iran.And this is why it was so important to target  the supreme leader, who is a top Shia identity. It's like killing the Pope.So, this was there to locate this war in the context of a religious war and to have the Jews winning the way they I had of Purim, you know? So, Purim become Okay. So, this is this where we are. So, given that they given they actually believe in they believe in this kind of Messianic reality of the the Temple. And of course, on the other side, the Iranians are also part of have a Messianic philosophy around the Mahdi. And of course, both are going for this war, which is for them existential. It's not existential for the Americans, but the Iranians don't necessarily want to stop this war, because they're saying we want a final end to this kind of attack on us by the Israelis and the Americans.And the Israelis are saying we need to get rid of Iran, because without doing that, we can't we can't be safe and we can't also essentially dominate the the Zionist Arab dictatorships, which I think that they are very connected to Zionism. People like Salman, bin Salman, and all these guys. So, we've got two forces which aren't going to back off, which have religious and spiritual Messianic ideologies, which which regard inevitable that there's going to be a collision. And of course, there's a there's narratives of oppression on both sides. The Israelis will have convinced themselves they are the oppressed. They are under attack. They're under threat constantly and they have to do this in order to survive. The Iranians similarly are saying basically we're be in attacked for our Velayat-e Faqih and our system of governance, our independence,our sovereignty and we need to take this all the way.

Are we heading to Armageddon?

 Again, you are you you repeat doing this, you know? You ask me ask me to be you ask me to be to get profit.

>> I keep asking you to bring the crystal ball out.

My answer is we are dealing with a genocidal suicidal entity. And if this is not enough,this society or this collective has a very solid notion of a Gog and Magog war. Have you heard this notion?
>> Yes, I have. It's called Yajooj and  Majooj in the Islamic tradition, but Gog and Magog, of course, we're familiar. Yeah.So, the the Gog and Magog is a final disastrous colossal destruction of the world, in which the Jews It's a biblical narrative. The Jews prevail over what is left of the universe. Okay. So, they'd be quite happy they'd be quite happy with a nuclear fallout and that mean that basically everything gets contaminated contaminated in West Asia, perhaps even Israel itself. Do they not Do you think they've got no concern about a potential nuclear nuclear attack on Iran? I'm concerned. I think I'm telling you
the truth. I'm I'm concerned, because I can see that - a total destruction of everything around them.And by the way, maybe some European states like Spain or Ireland, the anti-Semites they see them, is well within their sickening worldview. Right. Okay. So,there is nothing really hidden, you know? I'm quoting myself now.But I always tell people
there are no Jewish conspiracies. They do everything in the open. Right. They just don't allow you to talk about it.
And I'm talking about it.
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Re: Израел
« Отговор #783 -: Днес в 13:34:16 »
Снощи слушах Кедми в pogled.info:
 - Ние, евреите, не сме християни, и затова ние никога нищо не забравяме и нищи не прощаваме.
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Re: Израел
« Отговор #784 -: Днес в 14:01:14 »
Кедми ДГД, спрях да го слушам, откак Израел нападна Иран и той почна да го оправдава. Тия евреи не знам такива ли са по рождение, или ваксите ги изчанчиха толкова. Чела съм, че ваксите удрят по слабото място, при тях явно е акълът.
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Re: Израел
« Отговор #785 -: Днес в 14:17:12 »
Цитат на: kаily
Тия евреи не знам такива ли са по рождение, или ваксите ги изчанчиха толкова.
Чела съм, че ваксите удрят по слабото място, при тях явно е акълът.

Мога да ти кажа какви са арабите (живял съм сред тях) - с огромно самочувствие, много подозрителни, тънкообидни и отмъстителни.
Като техни полубратя, евреите вероятно са същите.
Та слабото им място (на едните и другите) е горделивостта им, убеждението им, че са над другите.

П.П. "Гордостта е любимият ми грях" /"Адвокат на Дявола"
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Re: Израел
« Отговор #786 -: Днес в 14:32:09 »
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The uniquely monotheistic tradition of the Jews accounts for their uniquely concentrated guilt. Their idea of being the Chosen of God gave them a unique sense of coherence and high calling. And the high spirituality and concern with morality associated with Jews is connected with their Advance In Intellectuallity:

    their prohibition of all graven images (so you can only think about God)
    the embodiment of religion in texts which have to be guarded and interpreted by sophisticated schools of rabbis
    their diaspora after the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD which made preservation of the texts and their right interpretation essential

Finally, the repressed guilt returns in the figure of Paul of Tarsus, a Roman Jew who sets out a theology around the figure of an obscure Nazarene preacher. The Good News is that the (repressed) historic guilt is atoned for, says Paul, and we have entered a new era of Love. The Son has atoned for the primal guilt all of us sons feel, having inherited the guilt of the primal crime. Christianity was able to reintroduce many elements of the old Atum religion, and incorporated elements from its time – a mother goddess, lesser gods (the angels), a dark spirit (Satan) much magic and spells, an afterlife with a heaven and hell. It represents a step back intellectually from Judaism but – in analytical terms, in terms of dealing with guilt and the unconscious – it is a step forward.
Antisemitism

Is due to specific historic reasons: 1) the Jews’ outsiderness and 2) their surprising success at intellectual activities for their numbers. Also 3) a deep resentment among their ‘host’ populations, of their supposed arrogance, of their thinking they are the ‘Chosen’ people. And also due, Freud thinks, to 4) their not having consciously acknowledged responsibility for killing the Father. The Christians can say we killed our Father-returned-as-the-Son, we acknowledge it, we live in a new era, redeemed by Christ’s sacrifice on behalf of all of us; but the Jews won’t face it. Paul reformed Judaism by re-enacting its repressed secret and in so doing made Judaism a fossil.
How does all this work?

Freud gives a resume of the topographical theory of the psyche: ego, id and the repressed. He then says analysis has shown that children appear to remember an archaic heritage, composed of memory traces of the childhood of the race ‘memory traces of the experiences of earlier generations!’ (volume 13, page 345)

If we assume the survival of these memory traces in the archaic heritage, we have bridged the gulf between individual and group psychology: we can deal with peoples as we do with an individual neurotic…Men have always known in this special way that they had a primal father and that they killed him.

The crucial premise is that these events are stored in the unconscious; because only unconscious forces are capable of generating the amount of irrational compulsion we see produced by religion. A rational response to clearly perceived events would lead to discussion etc. Only the unconscious can produce such forces. And after a period similar to the latency period in individuals, the Prophets mark a pubescent revival of the original fervour. Freud then goes on to explain the mechanism of pride associated with advances in intellectuality. Renouncing instinctive wishes is, in a sense, automatic for the ego. But it can bring definite affects from the superego. The superego of the Jews is the memory of Moses; with every renunciation of the life of the spirit, the Jews acquired more pride.

The superego is the successor and representative of the individual’s parents who supervised his actions in the first period of his life. It keeps the ego in a permanent state of dependence and exercises a constant pressure on it. Just as in childhood the ego is apprehensive about risking the love of its supreme master; it feels his approval as liberation and satisfaction and his reproaches as pangs of conscience. When the ego has brought the superego the sacrifice of an instinctual renunciation, it expects to be rewarded by receiving more love from it. The consciousness of deserving this love is felt as pride. (13:364)

So, according to Freud, the Jew’s pride is based on:

    renunciation of primitive wishes by the adoption of monotheism and becoming the Chosen people
    the evident growth in ethical and intellectual superiority this led to

Both achievements, alas, only generated more resentment of the Jews in the less psychologically advanced populations they found themselves living among, whether that was first century Romans, nineteenth century Russians or twentieth century Germans.
https://astrofella.wordpress.com/2023/07/10/moses-and-monotheism-sigmund-freud/

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